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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:41 am    Post subject:
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Oh, I have interest in a MI Chess, but I'm not trading Magglio for a rookie 2b who was just pulled off the scrap heap of the minor leagues and is somehow performing at the major league level. And he's also got that concussion issue... not a sure thing by any means.

I also had a hard time trying to move Jaso, but luckily Topanga jumped all over him when his WW replacements for Baker didn't pan out. I gave up trying to trade for a need, and just took the best value I could get... I'm about to do the same for Podsednik since I can't get a decent MI in return.

What would you want for the O-Dawg?
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My original plan was to try to finish top 3 in all the pitching cats, win SBs, and finish in the top half of runs and bavg... I figured that'd be good for 130 or so points and another top 5 finish. However, my pitching has been very disappointing and I've executed my overall strategy rather poorly thus far.

There's always hope as I went from last at the break to first one year, but DH1 is a lot more competitive these days and I just don't see where the points would come from.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:08 pm    Post subject:
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I want the same thing for Hudson that I want for any of my other middle infielders: a solid starting outfielder with decent power. I'm sorry you think Magglio is back to his old .300-30-100 form. At 36, he isn't getting any better.

And last time I checked, Walker is a little more than someone "pulled off the scrap heap." He has been one of Pittsburgh's best prospects since they drafted him as a catcher in 2004. They moved him to third base to get his bat to the majors quicker, but his bat didn't develop as quickly as they had hoped. He was hitting .321/.392/.560 before getting promoted and has continued to hit rather well in the majors. If no one is willing to give me what I want for him, I'll just play him out the rest of the season.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject:
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DH1 is a lot more competitive these days


Which is a great thing. Fantasy sports keep evolving and more resources are available than ever. Additionally, the top talent keeps moving up tiers so it makes sense.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:45 am    Post subject:
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I'm sorry you think Magglio is back to his old .300-30-100 form. At 36, he isn't getting any better.

He doesn't need to get any better to be the .310-100-20-100 bat that I'm counting on him being. He's one of the biggest reasons why my team AVG has jumped from .245 (dead last) to .264 (14th and climbing) over the last couple months. Forgive me for thinking that he's more for real than Walker.
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You're talking like your climb in batting average is one-of-a-kind. My team was last in batting average toward the end of April. I believe they were hitting .230, possibly worse. And you were selling Maggs as a .300-30-100 guy to me. A little intriguing that you back off on your projections after being called out on it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject:
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You're talking like your climb in batting average is one-of-a-kind. My team was last in batting average toward the end of April. I believe they were hitting .230, possibly worse. And you were selling Maggs as a .300-30-100 guy to me. A little intriguing that you back off on your projections after being called out on it.


He said his average made a huge jump. He didn't claim it to be the greatest jump in fantasy history and I also don't think he was initiating a pissing contest. It seems like if you spent half the time you use to criticize other managers about their decisions and offers on managing and improving your team, you could make some real progress with your own, struggling squad.
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My point was his large leap in average wasn't the only large leap in average. In fact, I leaped his team in the process. And it is rather hard to negotiate trades when I'm not receiving what I think is fair market value for my players. I don't see how Mike Napoli gets Brian Fuentes, but Brian McCann and John Buck don't even get inquiries. Are catchers who are capable of hitting 20 home runs just not that valuable on the trade market these days? You are acting like I'm not trying to improve my roster when instead I have been publicly stating I'm willing to move players at premium positions for outfielders. The most appealing offer I have received in the last month is Delmon Young for Neftali Feliz. Excuse me for holding out until I receive a better offer.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:34 am    Post subject:
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Please forward me the email where I claimed Maggs was a 30 HR hitter. I would love to see that one.

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He's [Magglio] one of the biggest reasons why my team AVG has jumped from .245 (dead last) to .264 (14th and climbing) over the last couple months

No where did I claim that I was the only team that made improvements in the batting average category. I merely was saying that the 20 point jump made by my team was largely due to Magglio's continued production in batting average.

Bottom line, you value your middle infielders at a premium, as do several other owners in the league. Personally, I don't think that position eligibility should trump production unless it's a close comparison. Like a .300-100-12-70-10 SS for a .300-100-5-70-45 outfielder doesn't make much sense in my book, but another owner is adamant that the infield eligibility is much more valuable than 35 steals for whatever reason.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:21 pm    Post subject:
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I just checked the e-mail and you said 20+. My apologies. And I have a very, very hard time believing someone who has delivered a .314 batting average increased your team mark 19 points. As for trading steals for a middle infielder, how did that work out for you?

I don't really feel I'm valuing my middle infielders more than everyone else, I think it's the other way around. Others are devaluing my middle infielders for whatever reason. Hudson doesn't do anything spectacular, but he is a reliable bat and has shown consistent production every year of his career. I don't think asking for someone with numbers comparable to Delmon Young, Franklin Gutierrez, Cody Ross, etc. Renteria is older, but he still hits for average. There's something to be said for that when teams are starting players like Craig Counsell, Jhonny Peralta, Yuniesky Betancourt, and Willie Bloomquist. As for Neil Walker, he ranks 12th in OPS among 2B-eligible players with at least 100 AB. Two guys ahead of him are on the disabled list for at least another month. I need to find the scrap heap he was pulled from and grab a few more guys from that heap.
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My roster updates...

I had 7 starting OFers on my roster so I traded away OF speed for some saves... Nyger Morgan, Tony Gwynn, & Sergio Romo for Joakim Soria, Matt Joyce, & Angel Sanchez

Even though I landed the best player in this deal in Soria, I'm not really sure that I come out on top of this trade in overall value. Soria should get me at least 3 points in saves. If Mike Gonzalez comes back strong it will also allow me to move a closer or possibly two at the deadline if I can accumulate a nice amount of saves in the next couple of weeks.

Losing Morgan's Sbs & .340 career average in the second half will hurt, but I still think I have enough speed to stay above the pack and wanted to try to get some points from another category. Romo is just as good if not better than Soria aside from saves in the other pitching cats. Joyce & Sanchez are clearly the two worst players in the deal. However, both are better than what's on the wire and should be serviceable bench players if I need to use one.

I also added Daniel Hudson off of waivers as someone drafted him, held onto him all year, and then dropped him a couple days before Peavy went down. Hudson will be a nice addition to my team and should allow me to move a SP for hitting.
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I also added Daniel Hudson off of waivers as someone drafted him, held onto him all year, and then dropped him a couple days before Peavy went down. Hudson will be a nice addition to my team and should allow me to move a SP for hitting.


Are you sure about that? I had Hudson on my roster for a couple weeks at one point.

He'll probably be a solid bottom rotation option in a 20-teamer. I did make a cheap offer for him, but evident by the fact I didn't offer more, I don't believe he's going to set the world on fire. He's not quite a top talent.
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My bad... Edison drafted him and I noticed he was the one that dropped him. You wasted a waiver pick on Hudson and then dropped him the same day. Then Edison picked him back up the first day he was eligible as a free agent. So essentially he's been on Edison's roster almost the entire season.

Daniel Hudson was the minor league baseball.com pitcher of the year last year and his overall career minor league numbers are impressive. Hudson has a strong WHIP, K/9, & BB/9 this year in AAA as well so I'm not worried. He'll be an above average SP and I doubt I'll move him unless I receive a productive everyday hitter. When I say productive, I don't mean a bum like Neil Walker either.
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When I say productive, I don't mean a bum like Neil Walker either.

hahaha, I love it.

I wouldn't mind taking a flier on Hudson... shoot me an offer/pm/email with what you think might work.
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